country music facts....

Antolina · Post by **Antolina** » 4 May 2001 4:28 pm

Fact: Country music traditionally accounted for 16.7% of the total market sales. The latest market earnings report country music now occupies 10.6%. A 30% decline. What started out as an attempt for a larger maket share has turned into a nightmare and they refuse to admit it.

Fact:..Mr Benson, chairman of CMA admits to "minor" problems and feels the economic turn down will reverse that trend.....hello? what planet does this guy live on?

Fact:...The porported reasoning behind the current CMA thinking is that country music is listened to mostly by "beer guzzling wife beating rednecks" Oh really? That infers that listeners of other music venues don't. Better check out the Rap and Rock scenes. I personally resent the labeling as I'm sure most of my fellow formites do.

Fact: country music is, has always been and will always be about life, it's struggles and victories. Todays new country is about????????

Fact: the Oldsmobile slogan "this is not your father's olds" did not capture a significant part of the market that they had hoped for. The ploy has since been dropped.

What I understand of the corporate world, heads roll when profits go down. because of inept mangement. This Benson is still in charge and planning new avenues for force feeding the public.

NOW HEAR THIS. ....... I have a solutution for CMA's current dilemma. Go back to square one and produce real country music again send the idots (along with Benson) away and watch profits and sales soar thirty percent......Duh! George, Randy, Alan, Brad ,Travis and countless others are alive and well and willing., Hey maybe they'll hire me. Nah too simple.

Enough ranting for one day..........RC

David Pennybaker · Post by **David Pennybaker** » 4 May 2001 6:15 pm

Duh! George, Randy, Alan, Brad ,Travis and countless others are alive and well and willing.

Just out of curiousity, how are THEIR sales and market share doing compared to 5, 10, 15, 20 years ago?

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Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 5 May 2001 2:40 am

I suspect some of the singers mentioned are doing as good as they did 10 years ago, some the same and some not as good.

Then there's "Brad", who is a newcomer. He's hot right now, but personally I'm tired of his soupy love songs that are getting air play. When is he going to do more "country" that he is supposed to be the savior of??

David Pennybaker · Post by **David Pennybaker** » 5 May 2001 10:26 am

If he keeps putting out stuff like "He Didn't Have To Be", I'll be very happy.

I don't need those beer-drinkin', momma getting out of prison songs anyway.

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chas smith R.I.P. · Post by **chas smith R.I.P.** » 5 May 2001 12:51 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Fact: the Oldsmobile slogan "this is not your father's olds" did not capture a significant part of the market that
they had hoped for. The ploy has since been dropped.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The whole car has been dropped.

erik · Post by **erik** » 6 May 2001 5:06 am

It doesn't help to have a name like Old's. Perhaps they should have tried switching to Newmobile.

Blane Sanders · Post by **Blane Sanders** » 6 May 2001 8:39 pm

Oldsmobile - Newmobile
Country Music - City Music

David Pennybaker · Post by **David Pennybaker** » 7 May 2001 7:31 am

Unfortunately (fortunately ?) I missed that show. What did Brad sing that night?

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Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 7 May 2001 2:52 pm

Beer drinkin' cheat'n fighti'n truck drivin', who really cares?It doesn't matter as long as there is a lot of predominate STEEL GUITAR! I don't care if it aint country, as long as there's a lot of steel! As a matter of fact, country isn't country ,or even music, if theres no steel!
Some of the best music I ever heard wasn't country,but it sure had great steel in it, like Ray Charles,volcanic action, Elton John,
even my recording with Johnny Rivers and Judas Priest.Steel guitar makes the music good ,not the title "country".Think about this troops! Maurice is GREAT! He is not the least bit country.But he IS steel guitar at its zenith!
"If it aint country it aint music?" BS!
You should be saying,"If it aint got steel, it aint music!" (actually this isnt true either but is fun to say if your a steel player!)
Do you have your "GOT STEEL " T-shirt yet?
Call me quick! there going fast!
Bobbe the mediator(so who appointed me?ME!)

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 7 May 2001 3:01 pm

By the way, just heard today that country music accounts for less than eight percect of the market share! SO! Steel players ,get out there and play something other than "country", Lets not sink with this ship when we can "jump ship" and play other musics! Country music (an oxymoran)deserted us,Lets go play something else.Yes, Yer gonna hafta learn new
songs Carl! DON"T GET STUCK IN COUNTRY <

Just get stuck in steel!
Bobbe

SmallCap · Post by **SmallCap** » 8 May 2001 11:45 am

Bobbe, i'll be in Nashville in June. Put an xx(x)l shirt aside. see you then

David Weaver · Post by **David Weaver** » 8 May 2001 11:59 am

Bobbe...

I just bought your CD. Masters. Love it.

If there is any way, I'm coming to Nashville for this clambake, whatever it turns out to be.

When I come to Nashville I want to come down to your store and buy a bunch of stuff.

You are the undeniable "VOICE OF REASON"!!

(That should be your signature..."Voice of Reason")

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Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 8 May 2001 12:06 pm

Voice of reason,-----I like it , but what about "history man?" Or what did Retcop call me? Oh yeah, "the Spoksman!"
Yes, I prefer "The voice of Reason"!!
Thanks, Your good buddy,Bobbe

Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 9 May 2001 1:02 pm

Uhhh....

Fact:..Mr Benson, chairman of CMA admits to "minor" problems and feels the economic turn down will reverse that trend.....hello? what planet does this guy live on?[

Not to spoil the fun but music sales and particularly country music sales tend to go up when the economy isn't doing so well.

Fact: Country music traditionally accounted for 16.7% of the total market sales. The latest market earnings report country music now occupies 10.6%. A 30% decline.

How for back are you going for your 16.7% "traditionally " figure ? 5 years, 10 years... ?

country music is listened to mostly by "beer guzzling wife beating rednecks"

urp...

Thinking that country music could save itself by marketing to cranky old farts with computers that don't buy records anymore doesn't seem like such a brilliant idea to me.

Anyway, have fun complaining fellas

Bob
[This message was edited by Bob Hoffnar on 09 May 2001 at 02:10 PM.]

BJ Bailey · Post by **BJ Bailey** » 9 May 2001 1:42 pm

Bobbie or bobbbe,you tell it like it is,but not only that.You tickle the crap out of me.
With all due respect to everyone on the forum,I'd like to thank you for your input.Keep us laughing and alway shoot straight from the hip

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 9 May 2001 6:12 pm

Bob,
I love the way you talk!

erik · Post by **erik** » 9 May 2001 8:35 pm

Bob wrote:
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Not to spoil the fun but music sales and particularly country music sales tend to go up when the economy isn't doing so well</blockquote>

This is because traditionally, Country songs express the woes of the common man. These kinds of songs are not popular now. How many years are you going back for this information? 15? 20?