Groove extractor in Sonar
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Wayne Franco
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Groove extractor in Sonar
I've been familiarizing myself with some of the feature in Sonar before taking a class online through Berklee College. I watched the company representative at a music store in Seattle demonstrate the Groove Extractor feature in Sonar. Is anyone here familiar with this feature?
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Bob Martin
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Hi Mr. Franco, I've used the groove extract a little bit which is one small part of the audio snap utility but to be honest most of my time with it has been playing with it and having fun. I know for a fact that the ways I use it is just barely scratching the surface of it's capabilities.
One way I've used it is to extract or copy audio notes from a drum track usually it's just the kick drum but it can be any part of a drum track as long as it's recorded to a single track there are exceptions but I won't get into those ways they are more involved. Other parts of the kit such as an open snare or cross stick can be extracted/copied as well.
One of the reasons I use it on the kick is to change the audio notes from the kick drum into midi notes so that I can do a couple of things. The first thing I can do is use the midi notes as a second midi kick to fatten up the original audio kick drum which would mean I would have 2 kick drums hitting at the same exact moment or I can replace the original audio kick altogether replacing it with one of my 24 bit kick drum samples. So hopefully you can see how great it is to swap out drum sounds with just a click of a few buttons.
Next this process can be repeated with any audio instrument that plays one note at a time. It can also be used to replace polyphonic instruments such as strings and keyboards but not as easily that's where it gets harder.
I would be amiss if I didn't mention that these few little tricks I use are just a very very small part of the audio snap utility. You can actually take complete drum tracks and fix huge timing problems and of course if you can do it with drum tracks you can do it with every other instrument in the mix.
Even with that included we're not even touching the surface. As little as I know about using the audio snap feature I could fill several pages of cool things that can be done with this feature. One last note on quantization of tracks it can be very easy to end up with mechanical sounding tracks ie midi sounding tracks if you over use the audio snap tool :-)but when used judiciously you can actually polish that so so song into a great sounding and tight mix.
Bob
One way I've used it is to extract or copy audio notes from a drum track usually it's just the kick drum but it can be any part of a drum track as long as it's recorded to a single track there are exceptions but I won't get into those ways they are more involved. Other parts of the kit such as an open snare or cross stick can be extracted/copied as well.
One of the reasons I use it on the kick is to change the audio notes from the kick drum into midi notes so that I can do a couple of things. The first thing I can do is use the midi notes as a second midi kick to fatten up the original audio kick drum which would mean I would have 2 kick drums hitting at the same exact moment or I can replace the original audio kick altogether replacing it with one of my 24 bit kick drum samples. So hopefully you can see how great it is to swap out drum sounds with just a click of a few buttons.
Next this process can be repeated with any audio instrument that plays one note at a time. It can also be used to replace polyphonic instruments such as strings and keyboards but not as easily that's where it gets harder.
I would be amiss if I didn't mention that these few little tricks I use are just a very very small part of the audio snap utility. You can actually take complete drum tracks and fix huge timing problems and of course if you can do it with drum tracks you can do it with every other instrument in the mix.
Even with that included we're not even touching the surface. As little as I know about using the audio snap feature I could fill several pages of cool things that can be done with this feature. One last note on quantization of tracks it can be very easy to end up with mechanical sounding tracks ie midi sounding tracks if you over use the audio snap tool :-)but when used judiciously you can actually polish that so so song into a great sounding and tight mix.
Bob
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Wayne Franco
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Thnaks Bob for your response
It looks interesting and should be fun to learn. Sound like you are on your way.
Wayne
Wayne