neat new Zoom 16 track Recorder/USB Interface
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Tony Prior
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neat new Zoom 16 track Recorder/USB Interface
http://www.samsontech.com/products/prod ... rodID=2009
16 tracks, 8 inputs, portable, batteries or AC power, rec. 8 channels at one time, SD card ( up to 32 gig) Memory Stick, USB, effects..records in 24 bit Wave which makes all tracks compatible with pretty much any PC/MAC software..etc...
Also serves as a USB Interface for MAC or PC software. Now that's interesting.
Sells for around $399.
After reading about this around the planet it appears the main issue it presently has is a some sort of latency between manually layered tracks, recording one at a time. I guess if you record 8 tracks, the last few have a noticable delay. There is a so called work around but I guess those in the know or have desire to get one should probably wait for a firmware fix, because latency on a standalone , build your tracks one at a time unit, is a deal killer !
But, I am thinking this will get resolved, and this is a very interesting concept, 16 track portable recorder and USB Interface for PC /MAC based software in a small package.
"Welcome to the Future"
t
16 tracks, 8 inputs, portable, batteries or AC power, rec. 8 channels at one time, SD card ( up to 32 gig) Memory Stick, USB, effects..records in 24 bit Wave which makes all tracks compatible with pretty much any PC/MAC software..etc...
Also serves as a USB Interface for MAC or PC software. Now that's interesting.
Sells for around $399.
After reading about this around the planet it appears the main issue it presently has is a some sort of latency between manually layered tracks, recording one at a time. I guess if you record 8 tracks, the last few have a noticable delay. There is a so called work around but I guess those in the know or have desire to get one should probably wait for a firmware fix, because latency on a standalone , build your tracks one at a time unit, is a deal killer !
But, I am thinking this will get resolved, and this is a very interesting concept, 16 track portable recorder and USB Interface for PC /MAC based software in a small package.
"Welcome to the Future"
t
Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders , Eastman Mandolin ,
Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 9 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website
Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 9 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website
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Bob Martin
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I have a feeling that as soon as they fix the bugs with a firmware upgrade these things will sell like hotcakes. At 399.00 MSRP they no doubt will be had for less than that price. I think it's a great deal most usb surface controllers alone cost more than this one does and I love the sd card portability and ease of use. I look many home users to start using these if they get all the kinks ironed out and knowing zoom as I do I'm sure they are working on it as I type if not already done
Thanks Ken great info here.
Bob
Bob
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Steve Morley
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re: neat new Zoom 16 track Recorder/USB Interface
My son and I each have one of these; I'm in the States, and he is in Europe using the same one with an EU plug converter.
I haven't done much tracking with it, but I can't detect any latency problems, yet. The issue, as stated in the manual, is that when two are connected together for 16 inputs/32 channels, there is a 1-2 ms latency. Perhaps it is too new, but not much is mentioned about this in any of the other forums.
The built-in mics are OK for area recording, although I have been using my condenser mics and direct instruments.
I'll probably set this up to be a control surface for Reaper this week, which uses the Mackie set-up I hear.
Overall, it is easy to use. So far, so good.
I bought through one of Amazon's sellers (Unique Squared), and they were terrific. Zoom/Samson was also very good about prompt replies to my questions via e-mail.
I haven't done much tracking with it, but I can't detect any latency problems, yet. The issue, as stated in the manual, is that when two are connected together for 16 inputs/32 channels, there is a 1-2 ms latency. Perhaps it is too new, but not much is mentioned about this in any of the other forums.
The built-in mics are OK for area recording, although I have been using my condenser mics and direct instruments.
I'll probably set this up to be a control surface for Reaper this week, which uses the Mackie set-up I hear.
Overall, it is easy to use. So far, so good.
I bought through one of Amazon's sellers (Unique Squared), and they were terrific. Zoom/Samson was also very good about prompt replies to my questions via e-mail.
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Tony Prior
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The discussions on the forums only relate to multi-tracking, building songs one track at a time. It appears that the latency is low on the first few tracks but once you get into a higher number of tracks the later tracks are not in sync with the early tracks. I read this on the Zoom recording forums. There is a work around which can fix all the tracks, something to do with reviewing the time stamp for each track and lining them all up at the same starting point. I think I read where it is 1.2 ms latency per track, which gets you 16 ms for the last track compared to the first.
I still have a strong interest in this unit, it fascinates me with the full blown feature set. Perhaps Zoom will come out with a firmware update for this or a make sense work around. I can see me getting one of these down the road.
t
I still have a strong interest in this unit, it fascinates me with the full blown feature set. Perhaps Zoom will come out with a firmware update for this or a make sense work around. I can see me getting one of these down the road.
t
Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders , Eastman Mandolin ,
Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 9 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website
Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 9 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website
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Bob Martin
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Sweetwater has a floor model on sale now for 359.00 I really like the idea of using it as a recorder and a controller as well. I won't be getting one anytime soon but at some poing I'd like to get one.
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/R16d
Bob
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/R16d
Bob
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Allan Thompson
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