Peterson V-SAM...Update

Paul Warnik · Post by **Paul Warnik** » 2 Apr 2003 10:03 am

I spoke to John Norris today by phone-he is not quite ready yet for me to bring a guitar down for testing it out-it should only be another week or two-one of the things they are currently still working on is a clamp for the unit to attach to the steel guitar leg-I gather that this unit may be heavier on the leg than say for instance my Match-Bro and they are using something other than the plastic type of piece that we are accustomed to using (like on Goodrich Products) for the application

Jim Palenscar · Post by **Jim Palenscar** » 2 Apr 2003 4:32 pm

The last word I had on the release date on these is mid-May

Ray Frady · Post by **Ray Frady** » 2 Apr 2003 8:39 pm

Paul,

Do you know when the shipping date is??? If not, could you find out and post it here??

I'm anxiously awaiting mine. I've had it preordered since I found out they were making them.

Thanks,

Ray

b0b · Post by **b0b** » 3 Apr 2003 9:16 am

moved to 'Electronics'

John Neff · Post by **John Neff** » 4 Apr 2003 12:32 pm

I'm considering getting a VS-1. What makes the V-SAM better suited for PSG? I was under the impression that the VS-1 would be more tuner than I would ever need.

John

Ken Fox · Post by **Ken Fox** » 4 Apr 2003 2:45 pm

I am waiting for the V-SAM because I will be able to store custom temperments for my guitar. You can not do that with the VS-1. With it you are locked into standard tuning (or other preset temperments not applicable to the steel guitar) and making adjustments for each string as you tune. Even using the Newman charts, I found they were not suited that well to my Sierra Steel (U12). The Newman settings are a good starting place for my steel. Once I get the instrument temper tuned I will then record the settings and build a custom temperment in the V-SAM. This will be a much less cumbersome method to tune with. It sounds like it will do the trick! I tried a VS-1 and really do like the display. The one thing I did not like was that the backlight needed to be brighter. I called Peterson and the rep told me the V-SAM would have a brighter display, as that has already been an issue. We also talked about the need for a holder that can attach to leg of the steel. It was difficult to hold the VS-1 and tune. I finally put it on a table beside the steel, as it kept sliding out of my lap!

Paul Warnik · Post by **Paul Warnik** » 9 Apr 2003 5:39 pm

Still waiting for John to call and say they are ready for me to come down-maybe next week???

Paul Warnik · Post by **Paul Warnik** » 21 Apr 2003 7:06 am

Meeting with the Peterson folks tentatively tomorrow (Tues Apr.22)

Ray Frady · Post by **Ray Frady** » 22 Apr 2003 3:40 pm

Paul...

Are you still trying out that tuner??????

Lucky Guy!!!

Tell them Hurry!!!!

Ray

Paul Warnik · Post by **Paul Warnik** » 23 Apr 2003 10:28 am

Ok-we spent the afternoon yesterday at Peterson checking it out-This is a "must have" item for every steel player

Look for me to post a more lengthy review of this great new product within the next few days-it is worth having and worth waiting for because it is going to make tuning more accurate,easier,and faster for all steel players who use one-and it may just standardize a better intonation for all of us

Jim Whitaker · Post by **Jim Whitaker** » 23 Apr 2003 3:24 pm

Paul is there been a price listing for this yet?

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Patrick Ickes · Post by **Patrick Ickes** » 23 Apr 2003 5:35 pm

Hi Jim,
On Peterson's web site, it was listed at $249 but not available until May.
I also checked retailers, and that was the price quoted.
Pat

Martin Weenick · Post by **Martin Weenick** » 25 Apr 2003 12:40 am

I ordered a V-SAM yesterday from Musicians Friend. The cost was $249.00 and a shipping date of June 11.

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Ron Randall · Post by **Ron Randall** » 25 Apr 2003 2:03 pm

Thanks Paul.

That's is what I have always wanted. A memory for the way I like to tune.

So............

Thanks for the Memory

Paul Warnik · Post by **Paul Warnik** » 25 Apr 2003 2:14 pm

Try this http://www.petersontuners.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=187 [This message was edited by PAUL WARNIK on 01 May 2003 at 05:52 AM.]

Ron Randall · Post by **Ron Randall** » 25 Apr 2003 7:59 pm

Paul,

Thanks for the link. Lots of good hard work, well documented by John at Peterson.

Great Forum at Peterson.

Paul Warnik · Post by **Paul Warnik** » 26 Apr 2003 6:20 am

Ron R-You are welcome sir

LeRoy Sawyer · Post by **LeRoy Sawyer** » 26 Apr 2003 10:35 am

Paul,

Can you share with us what the preset C6 and E9 tunings are going to be in the V-SAM. How does this differ from the settings you were using with Peterson 520?

Roy

Paul Warnik · Post by **Paul Warnik** » 26 Apr 2003 11:39 am

LeRoy S-The temperament presets for the E9th and C6th are listed in the instructional manual that comes with the V-SAM-followed by the following notation "Values derived by integrating and expanding upon steel guitar tuning theory and data described by Buddy Emmons,Jeff Newman, and others from various sources"

Basically-John told me that they used the Newman chart with some variation based on their own expertise and research

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Martin Weenick · Post by **Martin Weenick** » 27 Apr 2003 12:40 am

Paul, I didn't think to ask when I ordered the new V-SAM, do you know if the Clamp that holds the meter to the guitar leg comes with the unit or is that an extra purchase? Thanks, Martin.

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Martin W. Emmons LG III 3/5 Peavy 1000

Paul Warnik · Post by **Paul Warnik** » 27 Apr 2003 5:17 am

Martin W-the leg clamp that we are shown using on the Peterson Forum Website is a prototype which so far they only had one of-John Norris tells me that they are going to start making more of them-They will be an accessory at added cost-It is made (adapted) from existing drum kit hardware (for something like a cowbell or wood block) that they must buy from another source and then add a few parts that they fabricate at Peterson to attach to the V-SAM-They wanted something that would be adaptable to attach it to other musical equiptment besides the steel guitar leg such as music stands,microphone stands,etc. Since the V-SAM is slightly larger and heavier(than say my Goodrich Match-Bro)they needed something sturdier than those little plastic "slip-over" clamps that most of us are used to using on gadjets that we attach to the guitar leg

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Martin Weenick · Post by **Martin Weenick** » 28 Apr 2003 12:14 am

Thanks Paul, I thought that was the case. After doing more reading on the V-SAM ,I see that it comes with its own power supply (wall wart). It sounds like a real time saver when it comes to tuning. Martin.

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Martin W. Emmons LG III 3/5 Peavy 1000

Paul Warnik · Post by **Paul Warnik** » 28 Apr 2003 5:18 am

Martin-yes it does come with AC power supply-The clip on transducer(for acoustics)and the carrying case are extra(as the leg clamp is)